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My preference for general evening light is k. I know, not a huge difference, butthe slight less yellow while still being warm is nice for general around the house in the evening.

I have k in my home office. k or whatever for the garage/basement. Bathrooms are k.

Preferences are similar, I have - in home, I'll go up to in bathroom but currently brights.
- in shop, and + for all exterior flood type lighting. except the little front porch light which is k.

Ill stop before getting to the blue hue lights for exterior floods. Everyone has their preference, but the "general" consensus on kelvin rating based on usecase, activity, and mood seems to work quite well.

My father older eyes prefers highest color index possible in the workshop and similar kelvin to original bright incandescents and the k seem to fit that especially for adjustable work lights. The overheads are k.

Does any of this K rating or Color index rating play into the energy useage? I always look for the wattage vs lumens as well as the color index involved.

I should have mentioned this but they are making a k too.


They also have "white dial" with screwdriver adjustable color temp.

For something that get should only be adjusted one time, I'm not sure I'd pay even $5... as being able to buy one non adjustable correct bulb for $1-2 that I never wanted to have to adjust anyway.

That being said the flicker free is the real deal holy grail. Quality small trouble free and heat resistant electronics inside these common led bulbs are generally what's lacking. If Phillips has solved this, than it's worth it.

ust watched that video. Holy hell. Yeah, Im with ya, we dont need to import our f -ing light bulbs.

I don't think you have much choice.

GE is the last American company I can think of that had a light bulb division and technically that company doesn't exist anymore ( the GE stock ticker actually represents the company remnant that build jet engines ).
GE had a hard time giving up the lighting unit since it was a founding part of Eidson's business empire.
But eventually financial forces prevailed and the bulbs stopping being made.

Philips remains an actual manufacture of equipment ( from one of those small chocolate making countries... Holland? )
Different company, different country, different values... ( but still manufactured in China )

When I bought my home, some of the light bulbs were made in the GDR..
East Germany, those lasted a long time I think they were 130 volt rough service bulbs or something, rather yellow and not very bright.
People make light bulbs in Communist countries, because the products don't make money.
The factories are strategic operations intended to keep the proles working rather than rebelling
Politically motivated entities that economy thinks serve more than a singular purpose of creating wealth.

A lot of things are made or not made for Political reasons...
Also consider the struggle of class against class is what kind of struggle?
According to Marx it is a Political one for power.
Since we are in one of those periods of struggle again the political pressure to re shore jobs is also a class struggle.
For political reasons we might make light bulbs again too...

We don't treat work like that.
So we don't make things like that....
I wonder if it will change.

For something that get should only be adjusted one time, I'm not sure I'd pay even $5... as being able to buy one non adjustable correct bulb for $1-2 that I never wanted to have to adjust anyway.

Same, unless someone really wants something very particular in between k and k all the time, then I wouldn't bother with the white dial. I'll stick with Philips Hue Ambiance for the ones that we want to regularly adjust their color temp.

I do care about the thread, to point out that nobody needs to have a bulb look and feel like 100 year old technology except the op.

No, he is not the only one.
As noted, just because something is not important you you, does not mean it's not important to someone else. Not just regarding bulbs, but anything. I have zero interest in being off-grid, but I won't ask "who cares?" every time some posts about how they like being off-grid.

Also, Phillips must think others care too or they would not be making them.

No, he is not the only one.
As noted, just because something is not important you you, does not mean it's not important to someone else. Not just regarding bulbs, but anything. I have zero interest in being off-grid, but I won't ask "who cares?" every time some posts about how they like being off-grid.

Also, Phillips must think others care too or they would not be making them.

Manufactured demand. Are you in the habit of holding lightbulbs in your hand? Is that a thing?

If it's not then why does it have to be glass.

Look and feel lol.

To the question why not just use incandescents;
Too much draw for lighting off grid if not required.
On grid I would still be buying them if they were still available, at least for some applications.

They are (in Europe!). I bought some for "mashinery" last year. There is one industrial supply shop in a town nearby and they still have all sorts of incandescent bulbs. They look like normal domestic bulbs, but are in fact different voltages. From low voltage (36V or 48V, through 120V up till the normal 240V). The only ones that are truly unavailable are the ones with power over 60W.

Why do I buy them? I really have mashinery (lathes, mills) that takes these kinds of bulbs.

Manufactured demand. Are you in the habit of holding lightbulbs in your hand? Is that a thing?

If it's not then why does it have to be glass.

Look and feel lol.

I liked the glass feel too and was actually surprised, for a split second I thought I been had! I ordered some others similar and they were marketed as non breakable, same look, shape, and filament, but plastic case...
Once I put them in I haven't touched them since except for dusting....